My response to Yogi Ram’s Denouncement of Shiva Rea.



So Shiva Rea wears stretchy pants and sports bras.  And she teaches wild, undulating vinyasas.  She brings in live drum orchestras.  She quotes ancient tantric texts, and mixes it with her own brand of inspirational cheerleading.  The few times I’ve worked with her, I had an excellent time.  Really enjoyed myself, and also I felt like I grew, spiritually.  I felt my prana flowing, my body opening, my mind clearing.  All good in the hood, as far as I’m concerned.
I was really surprised to hear Yogi Ram’s quote, “Wearing skimpy clothes, glamorizing or doing unusual things definitely affects the dignity of Yoga. The government needs to step in and retain the essence and authenticity of the traditional Indian art.”  Shocked really, and saddened.  Saddened, because I naively believed that the yoga culture that I had opted into was beyond the repressive and misogynistic attitudes that I had come to associate with western traditions.  I’ve seen these things pop up a few times before, but this time, I’m really rubbed the wrong way.  Because Shiva clearly hasn’t done anything wrong.  I’ve seen an article or two that has come to her defense, but that isn’t even necessary.
It seems more useful to address the obvious underlying issue in Yogi Ram’s attitude.  Yogi Ram seems to have a problem with women.   He seeks to deny them of their power, their sexual and sensual agency, their place in the holy mandiram.  He seeks to shame them, to vilify their bodies, and to repress their femininity.  How else would you explain his words?
Yoga is a tradition passed down by a lineage of naked men who cover themselves in the ashes of dead people, hang out in graveyards, drink out of skulls, and smoke massive amounts of weed.  The Lord of the yogis is a naked man.  You would think that ashes and loincloths would fall under the heading of skimpy clothes.  Unusual behavior?  Take your pick.
But they are men.  Men are allowed to do what they want.  Men can choose what to do with their own bodies, can go naked if they want, can hang heavy weights from their members if they want.   Not women, though.  Women need to be kept under control, protected and locked away, like any other piece of property.  We see this often in western culture, but not so much in our yoga, because we have naturally been attracted to the highest elements, of love, acceptance and freedom.  We have been spared much of the dogma and backwoods rhetoric.  But here it is, yogic subjugation of the female, plain as day.
If another man sees OUR woman, while she is dressed in revealing clothing, he might feel lust, he might try to take her away from us.  He might even use force.  He might rape our woman, perhaps contaminating our bloodline.  And, (and this one is maybe even more dangerous to a fearful male ego) if we see a woman that isn’t ours, wearing stretchy pants, we might feel our primal, instinctual urges, we might be motivated to use force, and forsake our spiritual motivations, and act bestial.  Even if we don’t act bestial (pashukarma), we would have to admit that we live in a body that has bestial tendencies.  Animalistic thoughts arise, its part of the hardware.  But what to do?  Best to deal with them honestly, use a yoga and meditation practice to liberate the energy from the thought forms, and move into a loving, accepting place.   You don’t blame hot dancing women in stretchy pants though, just cause you can’t hold your bandhas.  It’s a shallow expression of a victim mentality, and that, if anything, is what would affect the dignity of yoga.

Here is the Original Article In The Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8368854/Yoga-row-between-Indian-purists-and-Western-free-form.html

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  1. Ganapatigirl says:

    :)

  2. BLiss says:

    Jai Sita Ram , Jai Shiva OM , Shakti is the Guru OM Tat Sat Hari Om , Sita is the Guru , Lakshmi OM Durga Maa Bhumi OM Tara Jai Jai Jai Divine Mother :)

    Baba ji OM namah shivay

  3. Saraswati says:

    You do have a way with words. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I took one of Shiva Rea’s classes at bhaktifest and I must admit, it wasn’t my thing. I won’t take another one of her classes but if it works for someone else, then go for it. We all have different ways to get to where we need to go.

  4. I agree. While Shiva Rea’s methods may seem unorthodox, perhaps even repugnant to a strict traditionalist, no one said Yogi Ram had to like it, or even agree with it. Simple disagreement with someone’s techniques or teaching style is one thing. However, demanding they be censured and accusing them of corrupting the dignity of yoga is a completely different matter. I could see if Shiva Rea was directly misrepresenting what yoga is or making false claims about its origins or fundamentlals. But just because you don’t agree with someone’s methods does not give you license to suggest that they should be interdicted. If it is indeed true that Yogi Ram’s issues are rooted in a deeply-seeded mysoginism, it is a very sad state of living and, I suspect, would itself eventually trespass on the true meaning of yoga. Bottom line, you could probably say something to him to the effect of, “Just who do you think you are?”

  5. Shiva Rea says:

    Dear SitaRamDas,

    A friend brought this up thinking that it was happening now. This happened in March 2011. I wrote to the Telegraph about the article and got no response. This is what I wrote about the experience back in March. While I really appreciate your support, I have to say the most bizarre experience as a human being is to see what is sacred to you, an offering from your heart transformed into actual lies or reinterpreted through lens that are biased as sitarammdas describes. The article appeared in the same newspapers (and actually spread around the world) as an article about brutality towards women in India. I guess the interesting thing about people’s comments is to see how easy it is to dehumanize another person. My intention in teaching is actually to serve the life-force in each person. “Inspirational cheerleading” seems to be in the same vein as yogi rams description.

    Anyhow…you are welcome to read my actual response below. My prayer is that we actually connect with each other as human beings, as emanations of Source. It is really hard to get used to this “Shiva Rea” projection that people create. But I made a commitment long ago to full-spectrum living and practice as in the Navaratri sadhana from Lakshmi to Durga. I have done my homework and projections upon women and the actions that have followed have been so culturally conditioned that I feel it is part of every woman’s process including if you are a female yoga teacher to navigate those waters as authentically as possible.

    I made a vow to never publicly teach in Rishikesh again. I prefer being a devotee and not a scapegoat for India’s strange public arena of spiritual politics, power and disowned confusion about the body, sexuality and freedom. If you have been to India recently, you know what I am talking about.

    Next time, please contact me. I am a human being just like you. Thanks Sitaramdas for speaking out. May we meet on subtler terms. I am no cheerleader and really cannot stand anything that is so externalized like that.

    Jai Ma!

    “I am still in Kerala studying Kalarippayatu and I have been bringing students here to connect with the roots of Indian culture for the last seven years. I am a bit surprised by the article…very bizarre as it was not at all …what was happening. I am very respectfully dressed when I am in India as this was my 12th pilgrimage over the last 20 years. I was offering a namaskaram for Ma Ganga and instead of being on a big stage we faced Ma Ganga all together. One of the most beloved Mataji of the Parmath Niketan ashram was singing Ganga slokhas and mantras the whole time and we closed the whole practice by making offerings to Ma Ganga. I was wearing either crop pants with a skirt over the pants or long pants no different than other yoga practitioners even Indians. I am very respectfully dressed when I am in India. . There was a part of the namaskaram in which we were moving in a sahaja flowing motion to connect with the powerful flow of Ma Ganga. There was a lot of bhava and devotion. I felt such blessings from Pujya Swami and all on Shivratri. I actually intentionally offered classes to honor the source of yoga. Quite bizarre…I think they were seeking publicity. It was a blessed Shivratri and Ma Ganga is alive in my heart.

    This was my workshop description not as a “defense” but just a glance how limited the engagement of the press is at going deeper. I would have loved to be interviewed before being plastered as the “cover girl” of this article. I am a student and sadhaka like everyone else.

    Ganga Namaskar – A Prana Flow Movement Offering with Live Chanting

    In this energetic vinyasa sadhana on the banks of the Ganga , we will experience a prana flow namaskaram dedicated to Ma Ganga as the living flow of the Shakti and the healing power of the water element. Through mantra, mudra, healing asanas, and sahaja flow, we will explore movement as meditation as a way of embodying the flow of the sacred for realization and awakening.

    It is a good debate that we all can engage in – the roots and living evolution of sadhana.

    Jai Ma Gange! Jai Ma Shakti! She is alive in us all!”

  6. Sitaram Das says:

    Jai Ma Shiva,
    Thanks for commenting. Its a little hard for me to really go deep on my 6 month old motivations for choosing that word, but i do apologize. It wasn’t the right word, and it doesn’t truly express my experience of you. I have always experienced you and your teachings as inspired, sincere, and profound. You mention ‘full spectrum living’. I see that, I love it. It is a good mantra for me, a good lesson. Thanks for all that you do, and I look forward to seeing you in class sometime soon.


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